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August 10, 2009

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Ron Stone

I like your napkin explainations of this healthcare equation. Maybe the healthcare (and other) bills in congress should be limited to a few napkins for all to see instead of hundreds and thousands of pages of hidden costs and agendas.

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Tough times for now regarding our health care policy but what can we do? We don't have the power and all we have to do is to follow. We are just ordinary people and hoping for a better future for our children's health care system.I hope our president will realize what do we really need and not what their pockets want.

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Fixing health care is important for everybody and I want to write an article about my opinion.

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Tracy D.

Great job, keep it up. Of course this is an oversimplification, but we have to simplify the conversation so voices which are not usual heard can join in. The fact that only "100 people understand it" is why you have to keep doing what you are doing.

Ingrid

To all the people screaming "Oversimplification!" I have to say, STFU because people like me who understand NOTHING might actually start to understand a little bit from such simplification. Then, I can find out more later, at least I get some basics down this way! It's like explaining an atom to a high-school student. At first you tell them there are three parts... which isn't true, but it helps them grasp the concept before introducing them to orbitals and quarks and things. OK? Oversimplification is fine - and I'm not an idiot, I know it is a simplification, but this is absolutely VALUABLE for getting me started in my understanding. OK? Thankyou.

James

Doctors are not 'in it for the money'.

Too often they practice defensive medicine-- ordering tests of marginal value solely to prevent a lawsuit against them.

And the other thing lacking from this over-simplified fantasy is the Medicare/Medicaid debacle. These failed government programs pay 30 cents on the dollar of the actual incurred cost of care. Guess who pays the rest?

The problem with government-run anything is that it has a bottomless pit of money (when the money runs out they just print more!). The net result is that the (bad) government money drives out the (good) private money. In such an environment competition is impossible.

Look up Gresham's Law. Educate yourself.

And stop posting this propagandistic nonsense.

Leah

I agree with William and others - there are those whose goals/interests run deeper and broader than pure profit but who have been forced into squashing those interests. Many doctors DO want to provide actual care.

Also, you've left out other parts of the equation, in terms of why costs are the way they are. I appreciate the attempt but agree that the simplification is maybe a little too simplified.

William

What about primary care doctors who's mission is to keep us well?

Eli

I like the thought - but this concept might be better-suited to things upon which there is broad agreement (i.e. electric motors, photosynthesis, etc.) There are obviously many interpretations of this issue. It can be quite misleading to create a metaphor which there is an internal logic, but which misrepresents the truth. The viewer, after being forced to digest this logic, is then trapped by it's circularity.

Harold Pohl

Your intention is good, I think, but this is too simplified to be of much use. You just don't have a good enough handle on the whole thing to do a simplification of this type.

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All I can add is, it is not a "Health Care Reform" but a "Wealth Care Reform"

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Matthew Holt

Dan, sadly what you think is obvious is wrong. Insurers make more money when costs increase as almost all their business is on a % of total costs, so they are NOT interested in decreasing costs in the way you think. That's a smokescreen. And the "fight" between insurers and providers is almost irrelevant to wider system problems.

Why didnt you get one of the 100 people who understand health care to help you?

Art Ignacio

Great that you're doing this. Much needed with all the shouting. Should you need support about the the position of insurers, here's a Bill Moyers PBS interview with former CIGNA exec Wendell Potter

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7QwX_soZ1GI

Maybe you've already seen it. Looking forward to napkin 4.

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They keep throwing out 30 million without health care. That is ONLY 15% of the population. And they are probably counting short term displaced workers (out of work 30-60 days but eventually employed again) and illegal immigrants. Can't we fix this problem for those 15% without killing the entire system?

Martin Jennings

Hi Dan,

Superficially, your napkin is accurate. Unfortunately, you've missed one of the primary reasons for increasing costs of care, malpractice insurance. Tort reform is necessary to reign in much of the cost of care. The government must eliminate fraud and waste on their side; medicare/medicaid. By eliminating a percentage of overhead (malpractice premius) the providers can lower rates, with lower rates, insurance companies can lower their negotiated rates with provicers, thereby lowering end-user's premiums.

Rotkapchen

One gross oversimplifications -- actually the element for which the MOST waste occurs isn't represented here. The context of medical care: doctor's offices and hospitals (all much bigger than just the doctors and their services: billing, cleaning, scheduling...).

As well, this ignores another critical element missing from the system: economic choice. We go to our doctor not knowing what the visit will cost us or whether or not we will get results from our investment. Medical is the worst economically balanced industry there is.

Rain

Hey Dan - just a quick question...are the underlying costs of health care going up along with insurance premiums, or are just premiums going up? We are sort of abstracted from the 'actual' cost of our healthcare because we pay for it indirectly, right? Great work (as always)

Steve Kaiser

Thanks for putting some work into simplifying this! I only hope that the people spewing (and being influenced by) rumors and lies will take the time to learn what the true problems are.

One note, I think a fundamental problem with insurers is that most of them are public companies, therefore responsible to their investors and motivated to constantly increase profits. THAT is the main reason they want to limit payments.

chris barnes

Dan, this is great! Can't wait to see the rest of the story.

I understand that you've lumped MDs, hospitals, and pharma together since they all make $$ by providing product or service to patients. However, their motivations and goals are different. I would love to see a visual explanation that dives into the relationships on the left side of your sketch.

Also, it would be interesting to sketch what the healthcare system looks like from the perspective of each stakeholder.

Per your previous post, let me know if there's any way we can help.

Susan Hamilton

I really like this blog and perspective. Couldn't agree more. So far. I'll be back to watch you 'draw' some conclusions! Most of my insights on this problem are on http://ow.ly/jJJj , and you can look me up in Newsblarg.com, I'd like to hear from you.

Doug Caldwell

Thanks for explanation. I will share it with lots.

Art

To suggest that the two businesses "hate each other" seems a bit too simple.

I'm interested in knowing how you deal with the "us" in the equation. To me part of the frustration in the debate is that I neither expect nor want the Federal government to provide for my healthcare.

I'd support a system where citizens have some sort of catastrophic coverage and a way to manage their own consumption of healthcare via MSAs or some sort of personal acct. I'd also support reform that helps reign in some of the abuses and costs. However, I'd prefer not having the government involved in much more than that.

So part of the healthcare debate is also philosophical and how one would view the role of government. In our quest for individual liberty we need to make sure that our perspective isn't altered by what's immediate or pragmatic at the moment. Because one day we may find that all we hold are empty promises and have lost the pursuit of liberty that is the linchpin of our society.

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